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The Sims 4 Pros & Cons list...

Discussion in 'The Sims 4 General Discussion' started by Hayley, Aug 4, 2014.

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    Hayley

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    This is something I've had to work on, to help me weigh up whether or not to get the game. The first thing that threw me was no CASt, then just as I got over that, they broke the news that there would be no toddlers. Me = heartbroken! As a legacy player, toddlers have always been an integral part of my gameplay; I couldn't, and still can't imagine not having them around. No teaching to walk/talk, no funny potty training faces... Still, I carried on with my pros/cons list, and even with no CASt and no toddlers, the pros seem to be far outweighing the cons. On that note, I've decided to bit the bullet and give it a go.

    I figured I'd post my pros/cons list, in case I could be of any use to anyone else. Of course, it's only my own personal opinion, and I'm sure there's things here that you'll say "Are you CRAZY, that's awesome! How can you not like it?!" or "Are you CRAZY, that's awful! How can you like it?!" But I tried to be as unbiased as I could with it.

    THE SIMS 4 PROS AND CONS LIST, V.2
    CREATE-A-SIM
    DO LIKE
    The ability to change EVERYTHING on a sim and not with sliders.
    The ability to mix-and-match any hat with any hair style.
    The ability to wear boots without them cutting through the trousers.
    No more maternity clothes; any and all outfits are now enabled for pregnancy!
    Detail Edit Mode is a sweet, sweet thing!
    The minimalistic look of the Create-a-Sim screen.
    Good choice of clothing & accessories for female sims; a solid 9/10 overall rating from me!
    Not as much choice of clothing & accessories for men, but still a good amount; solid 8/10 from me.


    DON'T LIKE
    No create-a-style OR even a colour wheel.
    The solid black 'block' eyelashes – hopefully this will change before game release.


    DON'T LIKE BUT CAN LIVE WITH
    The hit-and-miss hairs. 43 gorgeous & ok hairs vs. 22 bad & atrocious – my overall rating: 7/10


    INDIFFERENT ABOUT
    The walk styles. Most seem too cartoonish for how I play; with realism.


    MY THOUGHTS ON CREATE-A-SIM
    HAIRS - In my opinion, hairs in The Sims 4 seem to be a definite hit-and-miss thing. Some are absolutely gorgeous, some are just ok, then others are absolutely atrocious, such as hair that looks like the ends have been superglued together, hair that closely resembles plant leaves if you turn it green, and the worst by far, being the large afro, which looks a lot like a large stone/rock. I done a quick tally, and counted 19 really nice hairs, 24 just ok hairs and 22 really bad hairs. Still with a combined score of 43 for the nice & just ok hairs versus the 22 for bad hairs... that's a pretty good outcome. Also, I want to point out that there are 42 female hairs and 22 male hairs, and that's just in the early demo - WAY more than we had in the Sims 3 base game!

    FEMALE CLOTHES - So, the female clothing is a pretty solid category; my tally chart tells me that (in my opinion, of course!) there are 87 nice items, 41 just ok items and 24 not so great items. This is the overall score combined for tops, bottoms, full body, accessories, shoes, hats & make-up. I did find myself saying "I wish this came in x colour" and "I wish there was an opacity slider for make-up" but not that much - certainly not enough to make creating a sim in The Sims 4 troubling at all. All in all, I give it a solid 9/10 - a ton of items to choose from; way, way more than in the Sims 3 base game, some really nice recolours, and the actual textures/patterns are nice, too.

    MALE CLOTHES - The mens clothing category is again, a strong category. Once again, I done a tally of all the items, and came up with a combined score of 68 nice items, 18 ok items and 27 not so nice items. The nice is majorly outweighing the bad, just the same as the womens clothing. All in all, I give it a decent 8/10. 1 point was knocked off because there aren't as many items as the girls have, and there's only 4 decent facial hairs.


    BUILD/BUY MODE
    DO LIKE
    Curved and concave roofing without the need for CFE.
    Being able to change wall heights and foundation heights.
    Being able to move windows up and down the walls.
    Curved foundations & fences.
    Being able to move an entire house; perfect for when you build & it's slightly off-centre.
    Ability to add separate roof trims.
    Search catalogue in Buy Mode, to easily find whatever item you're looking for.
    Bigger pictures in the build/buy mode catalogue


    DON'T LIKE
    No create-a-style OR even a colour wheel.
    No terrain tools, meaning no split levelling.


    DON'T LIKE BUT CAN LIVE WITH
    The maximum lot size being 50x50. Would prefer 60x60, but it's not too much of a compromise.
    No swimming pools- It's a shame, but I don't use them enough to warrant it being an issue.


    INDIFFERENT ABOUT
    Being able to place & move entire rooms. Not something I see myself using.
    Friezes for the top of walls/buildings. Neat, but probably something I'd only use a handful of times.


    GAMEPLAY/LIVE MODE
    DO LIKE
    The new emotion-based system, and the different ways that emotions impact your sim & gameplay.
    The fact that the game is shipping with two worlds; Willow Creek and Oasis Spring.
    Sims disappearing off the edge of the lot when going out. Didn't like, but actually do like now.
    The overall 'whiteness' and almost Apple-product look of the build/buy/live mode UI.
    Auto-save feature as well as manual save; always a good thing, whichever way it's implemented.
    White baby bottles and breastfeeding; blur doesn't bother me as mod will get rid of it, like in TS3.
    If sims don't pay their bills, their water & power gets shut off, instead of just the repo man coming.
    When a sim is off-lot at work/school, you still get options to work hard/chat/take it easy, as in TS3.
    Babies now have LEGS; no more pink/blue squirming larvae!
    Push ups, sit ups and stretches a part of working out, as well as being a way to 'cool off' when mad.
    Traits system; having 3 'base' traits, 4th linked to your LTW and 5th 'unlocked' for completing LTW.
    Being able to switch between aspirations whenever, and not losing progress on the old one.
    You get to bake a cake and 'add candles' for birthdays.
    Sims can take a pregnancy test to see if they're pregnant!!!
    Proper multi-tasking that actually works.


    DON'T LIKE
    No toddlers. This one is a hard hit, especially for legacy players.


    DON'T LIKE BUT CAN LIVE WITH
    Loading screens. The current 20-30 seconds is fine, just hoping it doesn't get longer with EPs/CC.
    If you want a non-active house to continue over generations, you'll have to play them to do that.
    Story Progression not working in the same way as TS3; giving you more control over every house.


    INDIFFERENT ABOUT
    The gallery feature. It looks cool, but I'm not sure how much I'd realistically use it.
    Trams & boats being decorative. Would've been nice to use them, but I understand why you can't.
    The new emotion-based deaths; Ok with them now I know you have to really try to make it happen.
    Overall look of the world, Willow Creek. Looks nice, but the graphics & textures seem a little flat.


    So. That's just my views. Yeah. Let me know what you all think; I'm interested to hear about other peoples' likes/dislikes, pros/cons of The Sims 4! I found that doing this was not only weirdly therapeutic, but it's actually a good way to get all of your thoughts down, so you can properly evaluate everything!
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    Simfan923

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    I kind of like the new art style of the game is very cartoonish kind of TS2.5 but it's not bad kind of reminds me of the good times I had when I was younger playing TS1. I do love the new skills like Mischief Skill and Programming skill I guess those are new things to experiment with and the fact that the more artistic skills such as piano and violin or painting are their own unique skills as in TS3 they were seperate skills but they seemed to follow the same structure with the songs you played and how much tip money you made. Another big selling point for me is being able to edit without having many issues like in the game you can be playing on a gym lot and without leaving the lot you can re create an entire new venue! Those are just some of the things i love.

    I'm not entirely too happy about babies being objects like in TS1 or TSM. I'll admit that I'm going to miss my little toddlers so much. They would've been really cute in this game. Hopefully there will be a patch or something to have them included. I hate that it's only a month a way instead of a week lol.
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    Gigi

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    Thanks for this! A lot of people will find this helpful! I do like the little legs on babies. It is about time!

    I also don't like the fact there is no color wheel. Sometimes if you want a certain shirt and a certain pair of pants in CAS and there isn't just any colors that can get the two to coordinate, you either have to deal with it or go find something else.

    I do admit, the clothes in TS4 from EA are much cuter than those in TS3.
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    CaptainMauzer

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    Great list! Just wanted to touch on the loading screen item, In the gameplay demos, the loading screens only lasted 8-10 seconds at absolute most. Obviously we can't tell what hardware those computers were running, but it probably wasn't bleeding-edge tech.

    If you are really concerned about load times, you can (given you have the financial resources and know-how) install a solid state hard drive into your computer. It's not a "solution" to the problem, but it really makes load times a non issue (Sims 3 loads up for me in about 10-15 seconds with all but 2 or 3 expansions)
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    ebuchala

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    This is definitely my next planned computer upgrade. My computer runs a pretty solid 7.8 WEI except for the hard drive which is 5.9. Not an old drive but definitely not ssd speed.:(
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    Charlotte_mays

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    Well telling by this the pro's out weight the cons. So Im buying the sims 4 about a few weeks after it comes out. Thanks! You really helped with my decision! *HUGS*
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    Charlotte_mays

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    Well I was disappointed to, but then I sat down and thought, HOLY CRAP I FORGOT ABOUT CUSTOM CONTENT!!!!!! Lol I seriously forgot that there could be new patterns and colors that can be downloaded to the game from custom content sites, like thesimsresource.com they've already got custom content for the sims 4!
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    Charlotte_mays

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    I am most happy that you don't need a top of the line computer to run the sims 4! I don't have the best driver (AMD A4-4300 series) with onlyy 4 gb of ram with additional 6 external space and over 450 gb of hardrive space, so safe to say this will run my game beautifully. I love the cartoonish look too, and the fact that kis have biiiiiggg dollhouses to play with. It's going to be worth my money, and so will the expansions. cant wait for seasons, power outage by thunder storm? Classic! i can imagine my sims freaking out over it. Lol I already got this senario where my male sim is on the toilet while playing his multitab(Mutitasking) nd theres a thunderstorm, the power goes out, and he has a horrified look on his face and screams in simlish. either because of the dark, or because the toilet paper ran out XD
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    CaptainMauzer

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    LOL :roflmao::roflmao::roflmao:

    Thank you <3 ...also now I really want to see power outages as a thing....yet another dream that will probably never come to pass :unsure:
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    Dawnbreak

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    Due to the large reaction of Toddlers being cut, I'm pretty sure they'll add them in an EP down the line. For me, It's always better to judge the game on gameplay rather than content because content can be added later. Most people seem to forget this. Also, what bugs me is that players compare to TS2 and TS3. Keep in mind, those games were patched and have so many EPs and SPs. We have to wait and see what the future holds. I have faith. :)
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    Charlotte_mays

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    Well judging by the power can go off just by not paying the bills that could be a possibility in ts4 seasons when they release it, i have a feeling it would come across to them sometime. OMG now i want that to happen so I can screen shot it. It woul be funny if they actually react to no toilet paper and goes to buy some. That would be cute to me
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    Charlotte_mays

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    You read my mind completely. That's what I hate the most, they miss the key terms. BASE GAME, ALL NEW GAME, ALL NEW WAY TO PLAY. but we all know the exact same people who complained about the game will get it as soon as tots are added by patch or update. I just can't think of a EP that requires a tot
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    Dawnbreak

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    Maybe a Generations type EP?
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    Charlotte_mays

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    OHHH, I completely forgot about that. They may or may not translate ts3 EP's to fit ts4 franchise so I wasn't thinking about that. Either that or they may do an open for business type thing where you can own your own daycare service, that would be cute especially if they let you plop a lot to build your own dream daycare instead of it being in your house like ts3
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    Hayley

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    Wow, so happy that so many of you found this useful! I never originally intended to even post this online, it was just something I done to straighten things out in my head! Glad so many of you are getting some use out of this! :thumbsup:
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    starglitters9909

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    There are a lot of things that I don't like about the game. The fact that they left a lot of the things out that I am accustomed to in the sims 3 made it seem like a bummer to me. I am going to wait and see some game play from actual simmers before I decide on getting the game.
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    The book thief

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    :eek: on the Pro side , I heard that children can interact with babies. I don't think they could do that in TS3 or TS2 , or even TS1.
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    UtaDagda

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    I know they could not in TS3. And yes there are Children//Babies interactions in TS4. It's confirmed.
    [​IMG]
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    The book thief

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    I CAN SEE THE MACHINIMA POSSIBILTIES ALREADY!!!!
    :excited2::excited2::excited2::excited2::excited2::excited2::popcorn1::popcorn1::popcorn1::popcorn1::popcorn1:
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    Crazytulip

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    This is a base game hard to compare with Sims 3 plus all EP's. These are my Pros and Cons
    Pro
    All hoods available in one world
    No rabbit Holes
    Sims multitask better
    Livlier venues
    More game play Value
    I also like the Sims style over realism
    Build mode for non creative people like me/still scope for creative builders.
    Hopefully less lag
    Money cheat
    Looks to be more moddable
    Cons
    I would have liked a colour wheel not so concerned about Cast
    No move Objects cheat
    No toddlers
    No supernaturals
    I hate bill paying I hope there will be a cheat for auto bills

    I think most of the things I will miss could be added.
    I do use story Progression (Naaras) in Sims 3 but I enjoyed playing Sims 2 so I do not know if I will miss this.

    I fogot a new Pro The new increase sizing looks interesting
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