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Sims 4: Wheelchairs and Disabilities

Discussion in 'Sims 4 Expansion Packs and Stuff Packs' started by James, Jun 24, 2014.

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Do you like this idea?

  1. Yes

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    66.7%
  2. No

    25 vote(s)
    33.3%
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    Vettlune

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    One thing is hugging but another thing is to have constant animation of being in a wheel chair and moving it around. The height sliders mods for TS3 didn't even have smooth animations. Having wheel chairs just seem like too much work. Having CC wheel chairs aren't much work as long as they don't support any animation besides sitting lol.
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    Korvaz

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    I seriously doubt this would bode well in a Sims game lmfao. Honestly so it's fair for everyone I'd just leave that stuff to be introduced as 3rd party content by community modders.
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    disneygirl

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    except for the fact modders can't make movable wheelchairs. Only wheelchairs for picture-taking purposes which is rather why people want EA to create moveable wheelchairs. So a person who is in a wheelchair who wants to create themselves and and there *are* such people- can create themselves and do whatever their real selves do? I mean how realstic would it be for a person in a wheelchair to get out of a wheelchair to do cooking?
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    Korvaz

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    Saying modders can't make movable wheelchairs is a subjective statement, though.
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    Vettlune

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    disneygirl

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    FieryPhoenix

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    I could see a Simmer creating a wheelchair mod... but definitely nothing official. And Nick is right. It would be a lot of work for whoever creates it.

    And I LOL'd at this. It's true. If they couldn't bother making the teens/adults different heights, they won't bother with this complexity.
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    freakyteen21

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    I understand the whole animation overuse issue with the wheelchairs, but as a full time wheelchair user I'd still love to see it in game. There's a lot we can do, we're not stuck in the chairs like many people would believe us to be; yes there are some that can't do nearly as much as others, but there's many ways that a disabled person can live and still be happy, it's not as gloomy as people think it is.

    As far as certain complications like how does one go up stairs when there's no elevator, you can have sims crawl up the stairs, in a sitting way where they pull themselves up, or you could have other sims carry them up the stairs, same way as you would a toddler in previous sim games.

    There are many activities we could do, basketball in our wheelchairs, racing, swimming (if they ever put pools back in game) and pretty much any other sport; we live like normal people we just do things in our own way.
    As far as people's concern for the disabled being made fun of, honestly I grew up with that, and being discriminated and such, and I'm a stronger person for it, even though a bit bitter about how said "friends" treated me. Anyways, I would just love disabled sims in game, as in wheelchair users, not too keen on adding blind, deaf, and other more serious illness, cause then it'd make things more complicated.

    As far as how people who become in a wheelchair, either have a birth complication in the sims where the mother was mostly miserable and her baby didn't develop properly or have it happen randomly kind of how mine did, a virus when I was 5, called transverse myelitis. Or maybe they were doing an experiment at work and things didn't turn out like they wanted, or what have you.
    Last edited: Sep 15, 2014
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    disneygirl

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    Thank you-that what I been trying to say for ages-that disabled people can be just as normal as able people.

    I just want to address the last bit if you don't mind me. Some people like total control over their game and wouldn't like their sims' babies having complications or their sim children getting an illness or their adult sim getting injured from work-trust me I been a thousands of similar threads about this.
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    freakyteen21

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    true, but the way I was thinking as far as the complication goes, make it like sims 3, where it the mother had no complications during childbirth baby would be fine, and only in extreme cases would there be a complication; so the user would have full control on that, it could be an averaged out moodlet that the sim had. Example, if say the sim was pregnant for 5 days out of those 5 days they were miserable 4/5 or 3/5 then there'd be a complication.

    Also they could put in the rewards from aspirations (only for disabled sims) a cure, so that if your sim was accidently made disabled you can achieve to undo the disability. Believe me I'd love to have that in real life lol
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    Queen

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    I am so *glad* there is no disabilities nor wheelchairs in game. I knew it's not gonna happen. Thank gawd!!!
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    Heather Louita

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    I think it's a good idea definitely! To me playing the sims is representing real life and i usually create the characters to recreate people i know. And disabilities is a part of real life. My opinion about bullying online and maybe crude images being created is of course a worry, but isn't there many aspects already that have the same problem? As someone said, there are homosexual sims, various races etc. that have been hit from a minority of immature people. So the same could be said for sims with disabilities. I think maybe it would be a good idea to start off small, maybe just broken limbs, wheelchair etc. And i would think it be more tasteful not to make it an expansion pack about disabilities... just to be included in CaS. I think it's something that if a group of people, especially those who are disabled themselves and really want this feature could go to EA. Honestly i think it would something that won't happen till the next generation of Sims, maybe even The sims 6
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    WatchSparks

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    There actually aren't homosexual sims, sims are made bisexual but cannot truly be gay or lesbian, also there are no non-binary sims, transsexual, or transgender sims so that leaves out a HUGE group of people who I am sure would also want to be represented in the sims.
    Last edited: Sep 17, 2014
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    Sugar Rave

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    I'm not sure about full blown disabilities, but minor injuries like fractures or breaks where the sim routes around in a cast for a bit doesn't sound so awful. Also, I think if EA suspected that some random person would try to set a disabled sim on fire, they'd account for that in the gameplay somehow. They already said in an interview way back that they have to anticipate the ways players are going to try and kill their sims. To my knowledge, even pregnant sims are basically invincible until they have the baby. So no, I don't think they're not doing it because they're afraid of a lawsuit. It sounds more like they don't know how to approach it and are afraid of how much money and time it'd take to figure that out. Truthfully, I hope they do figure something out.

    I would support crutches, wheelchairs and canes if they worked like the canes in TS3, where you could decide to use them as props that would affect their overall walk cycle while equipped. And you have to admit, ramps would be an extremely useful feature when it comes to build mode.
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    disneygirl

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    another simmer, Schweighsr who was in a wheelchair awhile ago said that is one of the 'excuses' of a response she was give in a letter back in TS2 days. Here is what the Gru responded:

    But on the other side-aren't we suppose to be the sims' god? So in order to be the sims' god we need to have the opportunity for sims to become disabled (accidents for instance) since some people's gods are more dangerous lets say then others.

    Maybe for the people who are for the disabilities in the game how would a sim in a wheelchair cook sitting down? Or how could a sim shower? Or get up stairs before we get elevators?
    Last edited: Sep 18, 2014
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    Ryshtyan

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    This would be really tricky to do because of the sensitivity of the subject at hand. I personally don't think it's a good idea because while person #1 may be okay with a Sim character in a wheelchair in the game, person #2 may see it as an insult, feeling as if folks who are in wheelchairs are being mocked in game format. This will happen, even if this was done through the most innocent and purest of intentions.

    My parents are deaf/mute, which falls under the disability category. Now, a deaf/mute Sim may not be so obvious in the game, but for me, whenever I would hear the term "deaf and dumb" as this is the most often used description of such people, I wanted to shred apart the person who said that - even though I know it's just a saying, not a reality. For me, it's ignorance on the part of the person who said it - not thinking out their words before speaking. However, instead of tearing the person apart, I simply advise them in the future take out "dumb" and put in "mute" as that's a more accurate description.

    That last statement there only proves my point. Disability, no matter if it's physical, mental or emotional - is way too sensitive an issue to toy with, not even for any version of a Sims game.
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    disneygirl

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    I really hate to point this out. But we had mental illness in Sims 3 insane, inappropriate, and neurotic.
    Well about no offense the deaf and mute. Well you can't blame the person who says it blame our ancestors from decades ago-since when disablties first surfaced (centuries ago) people thought someone who couldn't talk wasn't smart. We know otherwise now.
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    freakyteen21

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    And there was the absent minded in the sims 3 as well, also in sims 4 insane is still a trait; And that's one of the reasons I'd love to have wheelchair bound sims in game, we've been brushed off far too much, because too many people have assumed over the years that because we can't walk we are basically useless.

    As far as someone else's post about how would a sim in a wheelchair cook, easy, same as a able sim, just we sit down and either twist our bodies to cook or some people who can afford it have all kinds of gadgets that help them reach everything. same goes for bathing, sleeping, etc. If EA or The sims francise ever does input wheelchair bound sim in game I'd be more than happy to give details on how I do things that they can put in game.
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    disneygirl

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    Might i add to your information? If people have enough money people can modify their kitchens/houses to be suitable for wheelchair user. Counters one can wheeled under or a stove-top one can wheel undered. Same with a bathroom.
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    Queen

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    I agreed the whole statement 100% and everything but there is something I'd like to advise you right now. Please take out the word "mute". Please do not use that word ever again because it is VERY insulting. Frankly.... I'm quite shocked that you are using it??? This is 2014, not 1960 anymore. Forgive me I may be a little hard on you, dear but I want to educate people not to use that word ever again. We should say "Deaf" or "Hearing Impaired"... either is correct. All deaf people do have voices, don't they? They are quite vocals.. oh yes, they do. They can talk and everything with their own voices... all different sounds. I know some people can't pronoun the words right but who cares. How does that possibly when you call them "Mute" like they have no vocal cord? lol *hugs*

    By the way... Hi to your deaf parents! I'm deaf as well! :)
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