NEW FOUND INFORMATION ON THE SIMS 4

plumdrop · Aug 24, 2013

Found this video on CAS in TS4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oMxVGmeO-s

zldixon · Aug 25, 2013

Woah. Thank you. Very extensive.

plumdrop · Aug 25, 2013

zldixon said:

Woah. Thank you. Very extensive.
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I thought so too, I love that creating ethnicities will be easier.

Tubbie Head · Aug 25, 2013

Thank you all for the links! This is looking fantastic!

Issabella · Aug 27, 2013

I think that sims 4 is going to be totally different to all the other sims, but what bothers me is that it is only in pre alpha stage. Why is sims 4 not near completion. When are we going to be able to play the final product...................

http://simsvip.com/2013/08/24/sims-4-gamescom-build-pre-alpha/

http://tinyurl.com/m3rhl4a

................can the sims 4 be completed by March 2014 or not :huh:

Schweighsr wrote:I see a lot of Simmers saying "don't worry, it's just Pre-Alpha stage, they will fix it." Um, sorry, no they won't.

Here is how a game is designed [copied from my blog] -

Stage 1 - Planning: This is the stage where they decide what they want the game to do and look like. This stage can take anywhere from 3 months to 3 years. During this phase they decide what the game will be like - what will be included, what will be left to an EP, etc. They also have artists sketch out designs for objects, Sims, the neighborhood and so on.

Stage 2 - Programming: Programming takes 3 months to several years depending on how complex the programming is [TS4 probably took over two years while an EP probably takes 6 to 9 months]. The game is built in Modules, each of which does a different thing. There will be one Module for emotions, another for meals and a even more for each NPC. Each Module is programmed by a separate team of programmers. The game consists of dozens, if not hundreds, or modules.

By this time the way the game is played is set in stone. The decision whether to animate hair is made. The look of the Sims has been chosen. They are not going to change any of those things.

Stage 3 - Pre-Alpha/ Alpha Testing: Pre-alpha is where they start to put the modules together and see if they work. This never works the 1st time, so they have to find out which parts of which Modules conflict, then reprogram the Modules, then try again... and again... and again. There is still a lot of programming to be done in this stage. When they can run some of those Modules together [say a interactions module and an emotions module and some animations modules] they usually start releasing videos and screenshots of the game. The reason we only see a certain amount of game-play over and over is because they are the only parts of the game that work without error.

This is the phase the game is in now. 90% of the programming has been done, it is just a matter of making the separate pieces work together. All they are doing is tweaking the programming. Once they have tested the modules in groups, they will put the whole game together and test it. By the time it enters alpha-testing the game is essentially done - nothing more will be added or changed.

Stage 4 - Beta-Testing: In this phase EA hunts for bugs. They have a group of people try it out on a variety of different computers with different specs and operating systems and see what happens. Each day the testers report the bugs back to The Sims Team, who correct the problems and send the fixes back to the testers to see if the fix causes problems. This takes a MINIMUM of 6 weeks and may take longer. It takes the same amount of time for a game as for an EP. [No, you can't be a Beta-Tester - you need a degree in Computer Science to do it right. It is more than just playing the unfinished game. **** Please-do-not-promote-other-forums **** copy-content-here ****jforum//images/smilies/69934afc394145350659cd7add244ca9.gif ] EA is notorious for not doing this stage right. They should send it out to a reputable third party who specializes in game testing, instead they do it in-house.

Stage 5 - Manufacturing: At this point the game is completely done. They take a copy of the completed, [mostly] debugged game and send it to be copied, get the boxes and the booklets printed and have everything put together. The day it is sent to the manufacturer the game is said to have 'gone gold' [way back in the old days they used to put the finished game on a gold-colored disk]. Then the disks have to be put in the boxes along with the instructions and everything has to be shipped to the retailers. Manufacturing takes a minimum of 3 to 6 weeks for games & EPs both.

There is one exception to this whole thing - variations of objects can be added even during alpha- and beta-testing. Once they have finished programming a chair [and making it work] they can make as many different chairs as they want. Variations of objects will continue to be added right up until the game 'goes gold'. Yes, this includes hair-styles, too [which is what everyone is complaining about] but the new hairstyles will look and act just like the styles we have already seen. They won't be animated and they won't have much more shape than what we have already seen.

Sorry for the long post.
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Issabella · Aug 27, 2013

Here are the sims 4 embargo dates ................................

Embargoed Information
â™¦ We cannot post about the Build/Buy master class content or post any pictures until Wednesday 11th September at 0900AM PDT/1700CMT/1800CET
â™¦ We cannot post about the Animations master class until Wednesday 18th September at 0900AM PDT/1700CMT/1800CET

Non-Embargoed Information
â™¦ We can post about The Sims 4 CAS master class and hands on with CAS
â™¦ We can post about The Sims 4 demo
â™¦ We can post photobomb screenshots of The Sims 4 CAS
â™¦ We can post all information and screens of The Sims 4 CAS
â™¦ We can post all information and screens of The Sims 3 Into the Future and The Sims 3 Movie Stuff
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Issabella · Aug 27, 2013

Two new screenshots.............................

Issabella · Aug 27, 2013

The Sims 4 is a better reflection of who we are as humans today
http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/25/the-sims-4-goes-for-emotional-depth

Issabella · Aug 27, 2013

Have you guys seen this walk through demo, it was posted a while back. Do you think this could be .................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ybApy-AIKk

zldixon · Aug 27, 2013

Issabella said:

Have you guys seen this walk through demo, it was posted a while back. Do you think this could be .................
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Lol not

plumdrop · Aug 27, 2013

Issabella said:

Have you guys seen this walk through demo, it was posted a while back. Do you think this could be .................

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ybApy-AIKk
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I don't believe that for a second, clearly not the same game.

Issabella · Aug 28, 2013

Sour Dime said:

I don't believe that for a second, clearly not the same game.
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No, not the same game but there is similarity to the sims 4 don't you think. This was posted a while back though.

Tubbie Head · Aug 28, 2013

leemone said:

Here is a better look at the sims 4 concept town avaiable to see in sims 3 into the future^^
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Beautiful, ins't it? *.*
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I can't get over how beautiful that looks :wub:

Issabella · Aug 28, 2013

Interesting information about the online rumors that is floating around for the sims 4.............................here's the link

http://www.ea.com/news/a-quick-clarification-on-online-games

..............and the article.

Quote:
A Quick Clarification on "Online" Games...

I wanted to take a moment to clear up something for gamers that seems to be causing a bit of confusion. Last week at Gamescom in Germany (what a phenomenal event that was, by the way â€“ 340,000 gamers! Iâ€™d need another postâ€¦), I spoke about the fact that EA no longer makes â€œofflineâ€ games.

That is a fact. But in industry headlines, on Twitter and in forums, I see some misinterpretations as to what that means exactly. So allow me to clarify.

Today, most games are â€œonlineâ€ in some way, shape or form. Many games connect in online multiplayer modes; others include online services which allow for periodic content updates, sharing stats or achievements or connecting with friends; and others are games downloaded through digital delivery methods like Origin or the App Store. The reality is, the Internet and social connectivity touches every one of our titles today â€“ and has for several years.

What that does NOT mean is that every game we ship will require an online connection. Many, if not most, of our games include single-player, offline modes that you can play entirely without an Internet connection, if you so choose. We know thatâ€™s something many of our players want, and we will continue to deliver it.

I also see confusion about our plans for free-to-play games. Many of our most popular franchises for PCs and mobile â€“ including Battlefield, Need for Speed, FIFA, Star Wars: The Old Republic, Plants vs. Zombies and now Madden NFL, to name a few â€“ already offer free-to-play experiences. Command & Conquer is another exciting new free-to-play game coming online later this year. However, NOT ALL of EAâ€™s games will offer a free-to-play mode. We will continue to explore new free-to-play experiences for our franchises when we believe there is gamer interest and a cool new game we can build. But of course we will continue to deliver award-winning core gaming experiences on ALL of these franchises.

I hope this helps to clear up a few things, and I look forward to your feedback in the comments below.
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Issabella · Aug 29, 2013

[SIZE=24pt]"Sims can be unhappy about their weight" says Sims 4 producer[/SIZE]
http://www.pcgamesn.com/sims-can-be-unhappy-about-their-weight-says-sims-4-producer?utm_medium=referral&utm_source=t.co

The Sims 4 Goes For Emotional Depth

The Sims 4 brings huge changes for the series. Where before it's always been about Sims' wants and needs, now their emotions come into play.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/25/the-sims-4-goes-for-emotional-depth

Abigail · Aug 29, 2013

Great find! That music is really creepy though.

Abigail · Aug 29, 2013

I wonder if it will be like that

Issabella · Aug 30, 2013

Clearing up a misunderstanding about weight-based emotions...........................

SimGuruGrant tweets weight-based emotions are not coming

SimGuruGrant has tweeted today about the article in PCGames in which he corrects the misunderstanding that weight-based emotions are coming to Sims 4.

Hi Simmers â€“ I was apparently quoted as saying Sims will have an emotional reaction to their bodies. This is not the case.
â€” Grant Rodiek (@SimGuruGrant) August 29, 2013

I'm sorry for the confusion. This really makes me sad to read.
â€” Grant Rodiek (@SimGuruGrant) August 29, 2013

I believe this is where the confusion was â€” it is POSSIBLE for us to do it. But we WON'T do it. It is NOT appropriate nor is it fun.
â€” Grant Rodiek (@SimGuruGrant) August 29, 2013

We do not feel it is appropriate to make a judgement based on your Sims bodies. You get to tell the story as you want and love who you are.
â€” Grant Rodiek (@SimGuruGrant) August 29, 2013

Honestly, it never even occurred to us to make emotions based on body image. That question was the first time it came to mind.
â€” Grant Rodiek (@SimGuruGrant) August 29, 2013

Just to summarize: Sims will not feel negative about weight gain or how they see themselves in the mirror.
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here is another link you can read regarding this catastrophe...................

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..................so what do they actually say about weight-based emotions. :huh:

Melik · Aug 31, 2013

That's really good that they did that. I wouldn't want my sim to be unhappy about weight. Especially if I made him or her that way.

leemone · Aug 31, 2013

Melik said:

That's really good that they did that. I wouldn't want my sim to be unhappy about weight. Especially if I made him or her that way.
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Bad mood caused by being overweight? Maybe for some that would be more real-like...by the way I'm glad that they didn't put this kind of moodlet in sims 4^^.

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